Chinese Northern and Southern Dynasties (II/79)
Eastern Jin's war-wagons
Proposer: Duncan Head
Proposal:
Add the following lines under the existing heading "Only southern dynasties:"
War-wagons with heavy crossbows, pavises and archers – Reg WWg (O) 0-8
Downgrade under-manned wagons improvised from baggage-carts – Reg WWg (I) any
Justification:
Eastern Jin, the first of the southern regimes, used carts or wagons
against cavalry-heavy northern armies on several occasions:
"Southern armies were driven to adopt various expedients to compensate
for their weakness in cavalry. One, employed with considerable success by
Liu Yu during his conquest of the Southern Yan in 409-10, was to bring a
large number of wheeled vehicles with the army. These do not seem to
have been war chariots modelled on those of antiquity, and there is no
evidence that they differed at all from the ordinary two-wheeled baggage
carts of North China, more likely to be drawn by oxen than by horses.
The carts could be deployed to create instant field fortifications to cover
the army's flanks or buttress an infantry formation about to be
attacked by cavalry."
(David A Graff, Medieval Chinese Warfare, 300-900, p.125.)
In 416 AD, Liu Yu led an Eastern Jin army north and was opposed by
the Northern Wei at the Yellow River. Liu pushed a bridgehead of 700
men with 100 wagons across the river, in a defensive semi-circular
formation with its flanks on the river. His main force under Zhu
Chaoshi crossed elsewhere, 2,000 with 100 large crossbows - 20 men
with one crossbow on each wagon. They also set up a shield on the
front shafts of each wagon. When these large crossbows shot, they
were accompanied by archery – from the other men on the wagons, or
from other specialist archers?
(From http://www.chinahistoryinfo.com/index.php?id=20,103,0,0,1,0
based on the Song Shi biography of Zhu Chaoshi.)
"One pundit blames the defeat of the (Liu) Song army near Huatai in
449 on their failure to bring carts as Liu Yu had done"
(Graff p.136 n.15).
Zhu's crossbow-artillery on a wagon could simply be Art (O), but the
accompanying archery and the protective shields suggest WWg. The 416
army is the only guide to numbers I have: 4 elements would cover
Zhu's force, while the 100 wagons of Liu's diversionary force would
be another 4 elements. However, with only seven men per wagon and no
specific reference to weapons, it is possible that these wagons were
less effective and certainly not able to produce a great volume of
missiles; so they might perhaps be classed as WWg (I). This downgrade
works only under DBMM, where they have been re-defined to represent
vehicles "Improvised from transport wagons, such as those of
migrating Sea Peoples". Wagons used as fortifications could perhaps
also be TF, but this is perhaps not appropriate in this particular
case since you couldn't then represent Liu's crossing of the river.
DBMM's Portable Obstacles could be used, but don't offer any cover
against missiles as a wagon-fort should.
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